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Ed Shuck

edshuck@noevalley.com www.noevalley.com


Feb 10, 08 - 8:01 PM
A baseball field at first and main?

A question open to all. And I have been told that I am wrong so don't hesitate to jump in.

Back about '50 the decision was made to fence in some of the downtown.

Question 1:

I seem to recall that there were bleachers and a baseball field at first and main with center field almost at the power sub station in near Connell and A. Any photos of this. Anyone else recall such a thing?

Question 2:

Just west of Landis Steel on A street, there is an open area that is boardered on the West and North by train tracks. At some time, were there cattle corals and chutes.

I recall, or maybe just imagine that these were on the way out when I was just a little kid. But maybe the demand was great enough during the 30s and 40s that quantity delivery was required
Susie Wood



Feb 11th, 2008 - 4:23 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

I don't have photos but, do remember the ballfield. Of course, the view I had of it was from the A Street side. We lived out west of the school and when we came to town (usually going to the post office), we drove right by it.

I think when they closed all those businesses and fenced that off, the ball park was also fenced it. Is that correct?
fredas



Feb 11th, 2008 - 4:41 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

I have a picture from the '51 Zinco posted on the "not Cardin" page, and it looks like the back stop was against first street. I can't make out anything about the cattle pens, though.
fredas
Butch Powell



Feb 12th, 2008 - 7:46 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

I remember the ball field and they also had carnivals there. I remenber once there was a traveling minstral show. It was the first time I had ever seen a person in blackface makeup. Funny how somethings stay with you forever and last week is a blur, excuse me while I go get another drink.
Susie Wood



Feb 12th, 2008 - 9:40 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

Until you mentioned the carnival, I had completely forgotten it. Yes I too, went to carnivals there. Did we also hear someone call them "medicine shows" ???
Ed Shuck

www.noevalley.com


Feb 25th, 2008 - 12:32 AM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

I also remember the carnivals.

But with the ball field, I recall bleachers. Not a lot. Just near the backstop and an announcers booth.

The various mining companies had teams.
Susie Wood



Feb 26th, 2008 - 8:51 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

I was talking on the phone to my sister (who lives in K.C.) this p.m. She pretty much grew up in Picher-Cardin Schools and graduated in 1951. She said she didn't remember a ballfield there but, she does remember one out west of Cardin by the old Power Plant. She said the only bleachers she could remember were at the high school.

Do you know about what year the ballfield would have been there???
Ed Shuck

www.noevalley.com


Feb 27th, 2008 - 10:19 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

Your sister graduated between Larry Shuck ('50) and Earl Shuck ('52). I think the ball field was gone earlier than that. I am not sure just when the fence went up around downtown. But the ball field was in a state of collapse prior to the fence going up. It had a name, I keep thinking of Gabby Hayes but that was the actor and not the ball park.

Following the fence going in. We played some softball there but there was no bleachers. I even recall one game when Benny Miller was playing first base.
Ed Shuck

www.noevalley.com


Feb 27th, 2008 - 11:20 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

Sorry about this. The fence had to go up between the time this was taken and homecoming of 51/52. We have misplaced our family photo album and there is a picture of none other than me in the 4th grade with Becky Bender on my arm. I was in the 4th and Becky in the 2nd. King and Queen of Whitebird for bringing in the most money for the march of dimes. That was still the big problem (as our host has mentioned in another post). The pic is taken with us standing at 3rd Street, on Columbus. Our "float" had not arrived or had broken down. Or something. Most noticable is the chain link fence to our right. (Will post when album is found)

And the time of this photo http://www.cardinkids.com/downtown%20Picher.htm answers the question. Had to be between the two.
Janice (Walkenshaw) Delperdang



Apr 4th, 2008 - 8:38 AM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

Sorry, I'm slow to respond to some things, but yes there was definately a ballfield on Main. My Dad Art Walkenshaw managed a team. Some of the ball players were Tom Colter, Bob Sweeten, Herman Bogard, and maybe Willard Bogard. I have been with him many a time when he put a board on a rope behind the car and drug the field. We even sold pop from a wash tub at the games. There was for sure some bleachers there. Some of my favorite memories are watching ballgames. I still have a love for baseball because of that park in Picher.
fredas



Apr 4th, 2008 - 9:21 AM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

That's quite all right, Jan. Late beats the heck out of never! I talked with jerry and Karlene Bayliss yeaterday, and Jerry remembers playing thee many imes, himself! Stay tuned......
Janice (Walkenshaw) Delperdang



Apr 4th, 2008 - 10:44 AM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

after you said Jerry Bayliss it made me think that maybe some of the Heatherly's played with Dad. But a good time was had by all.
fredas



Apr 4th, 2008 - 10:54 AM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

They probably did.... The name Heatherly covers a LOT of people around Cardin and Picher.
Ed Shuck

www.noevalley.com


Apr 4th, 2008 - 12:38 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

This for Janice

I joined the Boy Scouts in the '50s I recall that the post was in the Church off West 3rd. The one person I recall from the time was Don Walkenshaw. He lived with his parents, next door to the church. His dad was the scoutmaster.

Don and I started school at the same time at Central. Or maybe he had been there for a year. Not sure.

Peace

Ed
Janice (Walkenshaw) Delperdang



Apr 4th, 2008 - 4:47 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

We did live next door to the Union Church. I do remember my brother being in the scouts, he was born in 1942. He passed away in 1992. I remember your family as well. Little boy used to go to the ball games with us. I believe he lived across from the fire station.
e

www.noevalley.com


Apr 4th, 2008 - 8:35 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

I also was born in '42.

Earl (little boy) graduated in '52. After PHS he went to NEO. In '53 they went to the Junior Rose Bowl. After NEO, he went to Tulsa for a degree, married Terresa and became a teacher/coach in the OKC area working for John Adams. Then when Coach Adams died, Earl coached for a couple of years. Earl and his family moved from Midwest City to Downey CA in '65 and he became a counselor in the school system. I am under the impression that he continued his own education until the end. I also think he got a Phd. That would be a great testament to the teachers at PHS, if my belief is correct. He died of cancer 13 years ago.
fredas



Apr 5th, 2008 - 10:14 AM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

I wasn't born 'till 1942!
That gives you guys two advantages on me. 1- You're OLDER, and 2- you grew up in Picher.
I'm glad to see discussions here, of any kind, and more so when they include a little history or little known facts. The idea is to give a broader view of what it was in better times.
I'm starting another thankless task. My "If you can't do it right, don't do it" training is in full control, and I'm starting on the graduating seniors pictures in the halls at PHS. I'm even typing the names in under the pictures because otherwise, the search engine won't pick them up. Besides, when you reduce them to screen size, the names in some cases are too small to read. And, some are so faded I have to use a Zinco to get them right any way. I really need the 32 through 39 Zincos, but I'll do the best I can till then.
Keep on keepin on!
fredas
Ed Shuck

www.noevalley.com


Apr 5th, 2008 - 1:42 PM
Re: A baseball field at first and main?

Hi Fredas,

I was born in OKC November, '42. My mom is from Choctaw, just down SE 29th, past Tinker afb. Dad came home from the war in Europe and for a time he was stationed in San Antonio. When he left the Army, we lived for a while on Third and then I was sent back to my grandparents in Choctaw. Then back to Picher and we had a rental on 4th and Columbus. Back to Chocaw and when I came back, we lived on Columbus in the apartments with the parking over the creek. This was the time when I was in kindergarden at Central. The class was cramped and 4 of us were sent to the first grade class. At the end of the year we were promoted to the 1st grade and mom went ballistic. I was sent to Choctaw and started the 2nd grade. Grandma died when I was half way through the 3rd and I was sent to Picher. This time we were living in the American apartments and I was sent to Whitebird. Between the 4th and 5th we moved to North Trails End. Next door was Jimmy Hayworth, across the street was Ethel Harris, north about a block was Doris Sykes. Lots of kids. We had Mr. Mac that year. In the 7th, the house burned down and we moved to 4th and Columbus.

I have got to leave it there for now. Total time in Picher? I do not know, probably not that much. But Picher is home. Always has been.


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