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tarictic

tarictic05@yahoo.com


Apr 20, 06 - 10:13 AM
Reducer

does anyone knows why we really install reducer to pump nozzle?
JOP-any thoughts
thehat



Apr 20th, 2006 - 11:09 AM
Re: Reducer

Is this a trick question??
Jop



Apr 20th, 2006 - 1:24 PM
Re: Reducer

Yes, 99 times out of 100 times, the suction line size is one (or more) size (s) larger than the pump suction nozzle size. Therefore the reducer.
Simple.
Your next question is going to be "Why is the line size larger than the pump nozzle?
That is a question you must ask the process engineer and the pump engineer. Maybe its because they never talk to each other.
backsicker

turkey


Apr 21st, 2006 - 10:31 AM
Re: Reducer

Because

Out of pump the water must be closely pressed. if you dont use reducer the water must not be closely pressed and then there can be a kavitation.
e-train



Apr 21st, 2006 - 1:32 PM
Re: Reducer

I think Jop has got the correct answer. Although cavitation in a pump occurs when there is insufficient NPSH available I do not believe this is overcome by a reducer.
Tarictic



Apr 22nd, 2006 - 5:27 AM
Re: Reducer

JOP-I'm impressed....

I hope this simple question adds some ideas to other piping designers and not just looking on a P&ID when doing designs. cheers!!!!
Pattnaik

Kuwait


Apr 22nd, 2006 - 12:53 PM
Re: Reducer

Yes Boss If in pump suction side not providing reducer , at any time It may cause caviation. Nothing to disturb out the process generally in Industries they use Eccentric,Flat side up reducers.
Tarictic



Apr 22nd, 2006 - 2:25 PM
Re: Reducer

Guys,

With or without a reducer, there is a possibility of building up cavitations on pump suction. Why? whenever the liquid pressure drops below the vapor pressure, liquid boiling occurs, and the final effect will be cavitation.

Why one size lower? reducing the size pump is less cost that adding a reducer. Another thing is that a pipe one size a larger to a pump nozzle, this means that the line is always flooded or full going into the pump avoiding less pressure. Next question is, why conc. red. top flat? When ever bubbling occurs, bubbles stays at the bottom of the reducer not affecting the flow or allows the continous flow of the liquid.

Cheers!!!!!


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