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Lomax 223 weight

Hi All

I've been asked by m.o.t man to get my lomax weighed to prove that it's class 3.They've m.o.t'ed it for last 2 years with no problems and I travel 28 miles to get there.. If it's to heavy will any class 4 garage m.o.t it?

Anybody recommend any weighbridge's near staffs

Is it possible to get new vin plates as he says the vin plate still has 2cv weight on it which is all he can go by.documents state as lomax but have no weight listed.

Ps Carole my cheque is in the post.been bit busy trying to get mot done

Re: Lomax 223 weight

Any public weighbridge is able to issue a valid ticket for this. It is just that - a ticket with the weight printed on it.

I would suggest that you explain the situation to the weighbridge operator and tell him what weight the car needs to be. If he then doesn't notice that you have parked with your front wheels on the weighbridge and your rear wheel on the road you will, of course, point that out to him and get the actual weight certificated.........

There are replica blank Citroen VIN plates on eBay and available through spares specialists. You can then transfer the data over using punches and amend the weight. I assume the car is correctly registered on the V5??

Re: Lomax 223 weight

V5 is correct and it states lomax on it just has no weight on it.So vin plate would of been used by m.o.t for weight.I'll look for local weighbridge then

Thanks

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I weighed my lomax last wk to get it under 450k i removed the full screen,spare wheel and carier it came in at440k with 2 gallpetrol in so dont take any exess bagage with you

Membership No. 1958

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Where on earth is weight mentioned in any MOT test. When the vehicle was originally registered it had to have a weight certificate to get its registration certificate as a trike, and if it was not of an accepted weight then it could not have been registered.
I had this problem a couple of years ago with a 'jobs worth'. I tried three weighbridges near to me, and non of them would register under 500 kgs..
I just went to another MOT testing station, and no trouble. All the relevant information should all be on the MOT computer. There is no weight registered on the registration document, although there is space if it was considered relevant. Just what is the point of a weight certificate at this point in time ?. MOT time is stressful as it is, why do bods have to make it worse . Four wheel cars don't have to have a weight certificate, neither do motorcycles. If weight was of some significance for the fee, why do my local MOT stations only charge cars £30? This problem seems to be rising in significance, and it needs to be nipped in the bud.
Perhaps a section in the Forum advising members of MOT stations requesting weight certificates and ones that don't could be publicised

Membership No. 1011

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I AM NOT SURE BUT I THINK THE WEIGHT IS RELEVENT TO THE BRAKE TEST THE HEAVIER THE CAR THE MORE FORCE IS NEEDED WHEN I USED TO MOT MY BEEMER BIKES THE TESTER WOULD PUT A SET OF BATHROOM SCALES UNDER EACH WHEEL BEFOR PUTING IT ON THE ROLLERS WHEN I MOTD MY LOMAX LAST MONTH EVRY TIME HE TESTED THE BRAKES IT JUST LEAPT OFF THE ROLLERS I GUESS HE HAD SET IT AT 800+ K FOR 2CV

Membership No. 1958

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I have never seen a weight certificate for my 223 and I am not sure one was necessary for the initial registration (in 1994 as a Lomax). Any 3-wheel vehicle up to 3500kg can be registered as a "tricycle". Under 450kg it is Class 3 for MoT, under 410kg it is officially a "motorcycle" (MSVA rather than SVA) - but not for "motorcycle only" parking spaces! Up to 550kg it can be driven on a B1 driving licence (once upon a time granted when passing a motorcycle driving test but not any more).

I have no idea whether my car is or is not a motorcycle or whether it officially qualifies for Class 3 MoT, but I have never had any problem being accepted for Class 3. (Although there are a lot of cut-price MoTs aroung the official rates are £54.85 for Class 4 and £37.80 for Class 3).

I suspect the weight of my 223 as normally driven is around 450kg but could easily be reduced to below 450kg by leaving off some accessories. 410kg would be a little more difficult. I seem to remember some advice from Lomax HQ for registering 223s before MSVA to avoid SVA by keeping the weight below 410kg. This involved using a lightweight chassis, motorcycle battery (for the test), no passenger seat, no screens, etc.

It is right that the braking test on a rolling road requires the weight to be input. If too high a weight is input the measured brake efficiency would be an underestimate (a bad idea when testing a 2CV handbrake!).

I think that most MoT stations will assume that all small three-wheelers (such as Reliant Robins) and including 223s will be Class 3. Asking for a weight certificate is a bit jobsworth. If the car has had previous MoTs the records will show that it has been tested as Class 3 before and that should be enough. If they don't accept that, I would offer to take my custom elsewhere.

Membership No. 1159

Re: Lomax 223 weight

Hi All

I've finally got it weighed (420kg)
Printed weght ticket and photo to prove all bits are fitted.So hopefully no problems for further m.o.t's.

Regards
Steve

Membership No. 1964

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Now that you've found a friendly public weighbridge, it might be worth taking something off to get it to weigh under 410kg - battery, passenger seat, spare wheel (if fitted). You should then keep that ticket (rather than the 420kg one) with the documents.

It might be useful in future to have the car in the motorcycle class.

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When my Lomax 223 wsa tested for the first time 7 years ago It would not stay safely on the the brake test rollers, threatening to leap off into the garage wall. I also objected to the mot blokey testing the rear wheel with the wheel running backwards on the rollers. My reasoning being that the brake shoeswould now be making contact with NO leading edge on the linings and could rip the linings off!!! He seemed to accept this fact and then told me that threewheelers were exempt from the rolling road brake test, and should be tested on the open road with the old Tapley meter in the car.May be worth checking your mot testers book of words on this matter?

regards Badger

Membership No. 1462

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I think 410kg.Might be possible
If I removed the leather cover,Spot lamps,Wheel trims & changed the battery to motorcycle one.only other thing I could remove is carpet out from behind seats.

Can't remove passenger seat as my seats are rear seat out of a Ford Puma.
Do they sell lighter wheels for the lomax?

Any suggestions on where I could get a front anti roll bar from?

Regards
Steve

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just remove the entire seat.back and squabs..
. on the weigh bridge.. you won't be sitting in it...
out with spare wheel and mounting bracket, tools etc.
my pembleton was weighed with a lightweight single seat bolted in.came to 320kg with 4 spoked wheels.
I bought a factory seat later..

Membership No. 1336

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Steve - it really is worth making the effort to do this and having that sub-410kg ticket with the documents.

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Hi Badger
My local MOT station always did my brakes on a Tapley Meter after the first time being catapulted off the rollers!
They even bought a digital one 3 years ago as an upgrade - haven't had the heart to tell them I've sold the special now,oh well they can do the MG instead.
Chris
P.S Produced any more stones lately - We've still got the Kilner jar.

Membership No. 1488