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Re: Energy savings? What energy savings?

Re: lights in the closet. This is one place (and there are others) where there is practically no savings. Closet lights are off 99+% of the time. It makes no sense (at least for the individual user) to replace incandescents in closets on the argument that energy will be saved. The "you will save energy" mantra applies only to those lights that are on for long periods.

Re: Re: Energy savings? What energy savings?

Jaime,

I would agree with you except that experience of my younger daughter's habits with closet (in this case just wardrobe rather than a room) lights suggests otherwise! The lights in her wordrobe are activated by the doors - which she tends to leave open rather a lot.

This also applies to the TV, etc. which she will leave on whilst she is watching programs on the main TV downstairs. Her older sister does the same thing so I assume that it is some sort of social programming. Also lights in general tend to be on rather than off.

However whilst anyone reading that might think my house if likely to be above average in the wasteful measures ths is not the case. Both spend most of their time away from home as students during which periods their consumption (here at my house) is non-existent.

So I feel we are doing more than enough.

BTW I see the lead article in the New Scientist this week suggests that the only country in the world living a comfortable and sustainable existence is Cuba.

Anyone have any comments about that? (Maybe should be another thread?)

Grant

Re: Re: Re: Energy savings? What energy savings?

"BTW I see the lead article in the New Scientist this week suggests that the only country in the world living a comfortable and sustainable existence is Cuba."

That must account for why the world is queueing up to emigrate there.

Re: Energy savings? What energy savings?

Grant, maybe we should ask any Cuban not a member of the Communist Party.

Re: Re: Energy savings? What energy savings?

It occurs to me that we could enforce Cuban holidays to prepare people for the life they will need to adapt to. Though I would guess that the concepts of the Cuban would not travel well to, say, Manchester on a wet Wednesday.

The sustainability factor is easy to understand of course. For example when new things are in short supply - cars are probably the most evident items in Cuba - one finds way to keep them going since replacement is not an option. A 50 to 60 year car life is pretty remarkable really considering they are for real use rather than hobby use.

I could see the EU liking that concept but not the safety angle or static to "getting worse" CO2 emissions.

But overall setting Cuba as the yardstick might be a good thing. At least we can then turn to the 'authorites' and point out that they are setting standards for living that are unnecessarily lower than Cuba's when they get serious about social destruction. I'll give that about 5 years if the current direction continues.


Grant