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Re: Communication received

I find this subject fascinating, not because of the descriptions and depictions made by people like this, but about what their psychology and motivations can possibly be. I have throughout my life been in close proximity to such folk and am today. Tarot readers, astrologers, believers in the paranormal who have relayed personal experiences where the laws of physics are defied utterly. For instance in the June26th edition of the Sunday Telegraph's Stella magazine, First Person : 'A brush with a Poltergeist' the writer Michele Roberts writes about staying in the country cottage of a recently deceased aunt,

At breakfast one morning, glancing at the pot of Marmite (brought from England), I saw the lid rise up into the air, move sideways, hover, then drop on to the cloth.
Brigitte had always mocked English food: was she mocking it still?

Now the question for me is, did she see this in a dream and translate it into a real event due to grief or some other aberration; or did she want it so much to be true she willed herself into believing it; or again, was there a more cynical attention seeking, journalistic professional reason for making such a claim? The human brain is an amazing self deceptor certainly and incidentally, I think such subjects are a warning to 'sceptics' on our own side who say that science is never settled. Some basic and long established science is most certainly 'settled' and it is this science which informs my opinion on reports of flying marmite lids.

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Dreams can be incredibly realistic. I woke up a few mornings ago convinced that I'd been briefly married prior to my current marriage. In reality I hadn't, but it actually took a couple of groggy minutes to chase away the nagging doubts. I can well believe those of a less rational disposition might translate repeated such instances into false memories, or dreams of flying marmite pot lids into reality. I don't think the stress of moving house, plus persistent breaches of the European Working Time Directive, on occasion putting in almost double the permitted number of hours on the job, are helping!

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I have memories of locations that I know don't exist. Just last night I had a dream of having a dream of doing something stupid (I was stealing an artifact from a display in broad daylight). I was debating with myself in my dream whether I was gonna get nailed for having done this in my dream.

I have been pulled over by the police so many times in my dreams.

Wonder what that means...

;-)

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I dreamt last night that a coworker had agreed to take on part of a pressing project, another one that took a few conscious minutes to decide it was completely untrue. I think I need a holiday.

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The starting point claim of being able to detect a 1 deg F change in air temperature isn't too outrageous. The further Uri Geller-style claims about detecting quite distant cigarette smoke almost instantly, being able to stop watches, cause light bulbs to blow and cause data from floppy disks to disappear are a lot more dubious.

Some information on the temperature change detection thresholds for the human skin are given in this 'Scholarpedia' article:

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"When the skin at the base of the thumb is at 33 °C, the threshold for detecting an increase in temperature is 0.20 °C and is 0.11 °C for detecting a decrease in temperature."