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Re: Bolivia gives equal rights to Nature

That is hilarious, (although I might say that that's what Grauniad readers deserve). First, though, has anyone checked the dates of these articles? It's just a bit too close the the Feast Day of all Greenies for my comfort.
Assuming it is true, though, you have to wonder at the "thought" processes of such people. Firstly, the concept of Human Rights is so vague that M'Learned Friends are filling their boots in courts the world over: second, does the idea that non-human entities can be part of human law have any validity? Even though various wildlife protection acts purport to involve wildlife it's far from clear that the Party of the Second Part, i.e. the beastie concerned, can have an understanding of the law to which he is subject.
Thirdly, even the definition of life gets a bit blurry round the edges when examined closely - e.g. is a viral particle alive? The Jains make a big thing of sweeping the path lest they step on an ant, but how about the airborne bacteria you breathe in and your immune system then (Oh Horror!) kills? How do public health actions to fight a cholera epidemic fare, given that countless millions of Vibrio cholerae suffer a hideous death by disinfectant?
Nature also includes rocks and minerals - does this mean that a lump of Bolivian granite can take a mining company to court for being crushed, or even moved?
I am reminded of the occasion in Cornwall a few years ago when a bunch of Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) members were treated to the sight of a Protected peregrine falcon killing and eating a Protected roseate gull - I understand some of them are still in therapy.

Re: Bolivia gives equal rights to Nature

****! And I considered humans part of nature, I guess we are an alien species trying to survive in a foreign planet.
So locusts are ok, fire ants are ok, pine beetle is ok, the list is endless.

Re: Bolivia gives equal rights to Nature

Has the Earth even noticed humanity exists?

If Earth were a 50 year old person, modern man would have been around for only 1 hour of it's life and weigh about 1/135 millionth of it's bodyweight.

For every one pound of humanity there are 135 million pounds of Earth and that does not include the mass of all of the worms and termites!!!.

Modern man has been around for about 1/450,000th of Earth's life.

Earth: Mass = 6 x 10 to the 24th kg

13.2 x 10 to the 24th lbs

6.5 million people x 150 lbs/person = 975 billion pounds.

975,000,000,000 = 9.75 x 10 to the 11th pounds.

13.2 is 1.35 times bigger than 9.75.
1.35 x 10 the the 13th = 1/135,000,000,000( 1 per 135 million).

Earth is about 4.5 billion years old and modern mankind is about 10,000 years old.

Modern man has been around for about 1/450,000th of Earth's life.

That is about 1 hour out of the life of a 50 year old person.

Re: Bolivia gives equal rights to Nature

You know what?

I read somewhere that in the past, if you dared to say that the earth was not the belly button of the universe and EVERYTHING else rotated around it, making US the actual center of the universe, you were tortured, killed or something very unpleasant would happen to you (E pur si muove!).

We are receding (or should I say reseeding) a little in our modern times. The ego of humankind is immense and along with its ignorance and the speed and access to masses with communication (i.e. internet)somebody(ies) is(are) having a nice little power trip and making a whole lot of money.

To think that we actually have the power to effect such changes would make us a little less than demi-gods.

However, something good has come from all these lies and scams: some people are actually starting to reduce their waste footprint.

Re: Bolivia gives equal rights to Nature

In reply to Disputin, it looks like you're interpreting 'The Law of Mother Earth' as being some sort of ultimate victory for animal rights campaigners. I suppose that in the hands of a bunch of lawyers it might well turn out that way, but I was interpreting 'Mother Earth' as being 'Pachamama', an earth deity believed in by the indigenous people of the Andes region of South America, who makes the soil fertile and causes earthquakes.


About half the population of Bolivia is made up of indigenous 'Indian' people, and they are strongly represented in the current government led by Evo Morales. Technically speaking Bolivia is a Christian country following the Spanish conquest, but in practice Christianity has just been slapped on top of an underlying Pagan or pantheist belief system held by the indigenous people.

Pagans are less concerned about killing animals than the average person in a Western country, so I wouldn't see this as being some sort of victory for 'animal rights'. As an example of what I'm talking about, llamas are regularly sacrificed to Pachamama, and after a bit of Googling it's easy to find a few example photos:

This one (a bit gruesome) is a llama that has been sacrificed at a silver mine, presumably to improve the silver yield:

This one is of a sacrificial llama being led on to a football (soccer) pitch, presumably to help win a football match: