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49% directors payrise when workers get 3% OUTRAGEOUS ..if it is true

Is anyone as sceptical as me ?
We know if it's "too good to be true", "then it's not true"
- now we get "too outrageous to be true", "but UK media will report it anyway without question"

- 49% for top100 FTSE directors payrise when workers get 3% OUTRAGEOUS ..if it is true ..oops it isn't ?
- but we had this last week "Energy companies massive profits rise " in the ridiculous OFGEM report projecting gas costs and prices 10 months into the future

- seems to me there is a UK media SPIN pattern : every Friday stastics are released "monstering" someone who is not the government

Re: 49% directors payrise when workers get 3% OUTRAGEOUS ..if it is true

I think you may have the wrong web site for posting this.

Re: 49% directors payrise when workers get 3% OUTRAGEOUS ..if it is true

Checking out the linked article there appears to be some pretty good evidence of the 49% being a classic wrong number arising from journalistic headline being preferred to getting the facts right.


they confused average "mean" with median

the point is the story isn't true
it leads to the impression that director D1 got 49%, director D2 49%, D3 49%, D4 49%, D5 49% etc.

but is that what happened ?
-1. 30 of the 100 weren't even in the same job last year.
-2. some booming mining co directors got 350% payrises so lumping their salaries together with people with lower salaries who got 5% payrises to get a mean % is ridiculous a more relevant average would have been the median ...that's maybe 16%

Re: they confused average "mean" with median

The sample is far too small.

found the full debunk of that story

- I found the full debunk of that story

- may I also recommend that you follow!/FullFact it seems to be an excellent for exposing the errors of the evil ukmedia (living in their London Media bubble instead of the real world)

Re: found the full debunk of that story

The point about all these stories and the anti-capitalist protests is to deflect attention from the real causes.
The real culprit is government.
Government is meant to regulate and in the case of mortgages in general and the banking crisis in particular, failed catastrophically.
But it is far easier to blame greedy fatcats than accept responsibility themselves.
Government and the Civil Service, are also too intent on gorging at the trough themselves to want the focus on them.
Companies sometimes have no options but to follow certain paths in the absence of proper regulation; they have a legal duty to their shareholders.

We have seen this before in the case of apartheid. It raised the question of ethical investments and it required the shareholders to stand up and give very clear directions about what were acceptable investments.
In the case of arms trading the government did adopt an "ethical stance" but violated its own declared position.

So if there are profits to be made in sub prime mortgages and no guidance from the regulators, what are they to do?
OK, it is simplistic.
Even the lay person could see the problems with 120% mortgages and self certified income..... but the government could not or would not and did not intervene (though I understand the US government may have made some belated moves to investigate mortgages) and with good reason; allowing ridiculous mortages pushed property prices higher and higher and the valuation of the country's net worth includes property values.
To allow the property prices to collapse would make this country far less of a good debt risk than otherwise.
Of course, if a business group artificially inflated its asset value they'd all be in jail by now.

Re: found the full debunk of that story

This does however illustrate the harm that information can do. For all the boardroom types who are below the average can use the information to justify getting paid above the average. For we all know, all executive types are genuinely above-average types, aren't they? That could easily lead to an across-the-boardroom average pay increase of 49% a year.