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Air into water

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/10/24/201236/xprizes-new-challenge-turn-air-into-water-make-more-than-a-million-dollars

I have a knee jerk reaction to this. 2000 Liters of water / day for $0.02 / liter. $40 / day.

I also have a knee jerk reaction to a device that can get to responder in 90 seconds even if no signal is available... It must get sent automatically and inconspicuously...

I have to look into the first a little more. The second falls into a category of irresistible force and immovable object...

Re: Air into water

There has been quite a bit of development of atmospheric water generators since the beginning of the 21st century, mainly as a result of Western participation in wars in the Middle East, where it has been realised that it is much cheaper to extract water from the air in these hot countries than it is to ship in bottled water for the troops. The most efficient product in this area available at the moment seems to be this machine developed by an Israeli company called Water-Gen:

Water-Gen

This machine meets the XPrize cost target of 2 US cents per litre (1.5 Rupees quoted in the article is 2 cents), but the quoted cost is very likely to be based on being able to use 'normal' fossil fuel generated electricity. The XPrize requires the water extraction to be carried out using renewable energy, which is going to be several times more expensive than normal electricity. The machine also produces 250 to 800 litres per day, depending on temperature and humidity conditions, whereas the XPrize requires a minimum of 2000 litres per day under unstated temperature and humidity conditions.

Re: Air into water

Exquisite response to my knee jerk. 250L to 800L is going to be determined by how much water is available in the air.

How does this process scale up? Can I place 10 of these next to each other and get 10x the water?

Once again my knee starts to twitch. When they drill wells, there is a depression created in the water table. What does that depression look like in the "air water table".

How many do we need on the planet to start affecting the weather cycle?

I joke.. But only halfway. If we are good at something as humans it is replicating a device like this and putting it everywhere and then wondering... "Hey, why isn't it raining..."

Still I joke...

Re: Air into water

If the development is based on the cost of providing water to troops then dependence on fossil fuels is one to avoid if possible because it places further demands on the supply chain.
But solar or wind powered means they just have to deliver the plant where its needed and turn it on. I suspect they do not intend that it should sign up for a green energy contract with their local electricity supplier.

The US military usually a golden triangle requirement of good, fast and cheap, and will be happy to hit two out of three given no other choices.

Re: Air into water

This Xprize thing is a humanitarian, left-liberal project. It is described in Wikipedia as "XPRIZE is a non-profit organization that designs and manages public competitions intended to encourage technological development that could benefit mankind." So there will be no direct intention in the XPrize to make it easier or cheaper to provide water for the military, in case there is any confusion on that.

One thing I note about the XPrize is that they seem to be only interested in running costs (2 cents per litre), and they don't seem to be concerned about the initial cost of the equipment. These atmospheric water generators are not cheap - I had a quick look on Amazon to see if you could buy one there, and one is on sale at $2000 that can make 2 to 5 gallons of water per day (5 US gallons is 18.9 litres). So 2000 litres per day might require a machine, or maybe a set of machines, that costs at least tens of thousands of dollars, but presumably that cost would be paid for by some aid agency.

The military would, I assume, like the Xprize people, be interested in an off-grid solar-powered atmospheric water generator, but after a quick bit of Googling, the performance of the generators that are available today does not look very impressive. This one weighs 220 lb and can only manage up to 1.5 litres per day:

solar water generator

They don't quote any running costs for the generator.

Re: Air into water

How can we cause weather to change with these... ?

If we get enough on them on the roof of homes, can we drop the water through generators to make power?

Re: Air into water

How can we cause weather to change with these... ?

If we get enough on them on the roof of homes, can we drop the water through generators to make power?