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Another serial number question....

OK, I just got into this restoring thing. I had an old Hutch back in the day, so naturally, that's what I wanted. I bought a frame off a guy on eBay a couple days ago, (haven't got it as of yet) but I want to know what I have..

He says the TT length is 19", and the serial number is on the left dropout - 0650875.

My question is, since I'm rebuilding/restoring it, is it a Pro Racer, Pro Star? Does it matter? I'm going to re-decal it and want to put the right stuff on...

Also should a 1984 NORA CUP sticker belong on it?

Help, this is my first..

Re: Another serial number question....

Hi!
You can find all info on the Hutch ID page of my site.
Serial numbers don't have a date code in them, welders just took dropouts out a big container when they needed some.
Anyway,only for reference, my Hollywood has a serial beginning with 065 and had orginaly a 1984-85 Nora Cup decal.
19" TT (think it will be little longer center to center) is a Pro Racer.
Pro Star was a complete bike with all the Hutch goodies on it using a Pro or Expet Racer frame.
Good luck and much joy with your Hutch.
Send pics whjen he's complete ok?

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Thanks for the info. Without knowing for sure the year, how should I decide whether I should I go with 84 or 85? Just pick?

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OK, so I got my frame last night.. 19-3/8" TT length.. I can't exactly measure the angle of the headtube.. Was there ever a chrome Hollywood? My rear chainstays are lower where it meets the seat tube.. I know that's what a Hollywood does, but I don't know of a chrome one..

Maybe it's just a Monday morning Pro Racer?

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Long time ago I talked with Rich Hutchins Jr. and here's what he had to say about the Hollywood frames:
JJR:The Hollywood. Mike Miranda’s Hutch. I remember that the Hollywood was slightly different then the Pro Racer and after the pro racer used the same design as the Hollywood. Is that correct? And what was the difference between the pro racer and the Hollywood? Or was it just the color?
Rich:The Hollywood frame was basically the pro frame what we did do was took all of the frames that had blemishes in them that we could not sell we would strip and send for powder coating and Mike picked his colors because too this point we only did chrome that was our thing chrome. I remember way back at the beginning of hutch me and a friend of mine would take the color anodized items and use oven cleaner to strip and then buff the products to sell back then no one did polished items or chrome on alum. so we did it all.
So color was new to us and that is how we came up with Hollywood series.
JJR: You said the hollywood was a painted pro racer, but did hutch ever sold chrome hollywoods because i've seen chrome hollywood seatstay decals.
Rich: some were chrome plated at a couple of different times just because that frame was so close to the pro racer it was hard for my uncle to tell the difference sometimes hollywood did have suttle changes not enough for most people to pick up on
we had those decals made after we caught the problem realized we had a lot of chrome ones in stock miss labeled we had to back though and reopen all boxes had girls re-sticker them so you will find these both ways out there.